jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 0:00

Okay,

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 0:01

It's my world now, bro. You're done.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 0:05

you have just what's your responsibility

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 0:08

All things are equal.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 0:10

Episode 18 guys weekend at Bernie's Christians not here, but he's not quote unquote Bernie. He's just out of town early voting get out there and vote put your votes in but we got premier league me and will take care of it for you. How you doing?

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 0:24

Doing great. Last weekend could have gone so much worse for me than it ended up going, not doing bad. How about you, bro?

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 0:30

Pretty good. I did vote yesterday. It's fun stuff But i'm ready to get in talking about the premier league and some awards And another game and another league entirely spoiler. I won't say who it is a couple shout outs new listeners Got a listener in Mississippi, so that's cool. We made it into the deep South. How fun

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 0:52

Mississippi over Louisiana every day. Yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 0:54

Yeah, they do listen to soccer out there. It's not just out. It's not just Alabama football, their Mississippi state or else. And what a hot Mexico.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 1:03

I like the way you said that.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 1:05

Oh

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 1:05

Guanajuato. I can't even do that. Oof.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 1:06

I can't keep it up.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 1:07

Nah, that was good. No pressure.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 1:10

I got one in me.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 1:11

Wouldn't take Johnson for no reason, bro. You killed it,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 1:13

so we appreciate your listens. As we continue to grow this brand and bring football

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 1:20

Not the brand engagement.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 1:21

around the world. Yeah. From our little spot in Orlando. I love connecting with people from from across the country and down south. When you want to jump into premier league or you want to talk about anything before we discuss that or how you want to do it today

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 1:36

let's, we'll do premier league first. We'll do winners, losers, whatnot. And then we'll go from there. So match day nine match day nine started this Friday. So if you had your pick comes in before three 30, thank you for your engagement for submitting picks takes 30 seconds. We put those on our socials every week match day nine, though we had Leicester city versus Nottingham. Nottingham was able to get a three, one win behind a Chris wood brace. If so, Sean Brent versus Brentford, the derby super fun game, four, three bride and wolves, another furious comeback from wolves ended up in two, two wolves scored two goals from the 87th on man city, South Hampton went one nail behind a Holland fifth minute goal. Villa burn myth ends one, one on a tie burn myth gets a late equalizer from Evan Nielsen Everton Fulham ends one, one. with a late equalizer for Everton. That flipped our pick them this week. Chelsea, Newcastle ended on a two one in favor of the blues. West Ham, Manchester United ended two one after a late bar pen and extra time leads to a Eric tent hug sack. Crystal Palestine ends one zero in a well deserved one for crystal palace. From what I watched Arsenal and Liverpool are game of the week. Ended 2 2 after a most solid tie. That being said, winners and losers this week, another off week for the pod. A lot of surprises, results, some, some late draws. So we had a tie this week.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 2:56

close.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 2:58

were thin. You'll hear that from us a lot. But Jarrell. Off the strength of your tiebreaker, just doing so well all season. Jarrell's ready to take his week off. He's not gonna do pick ups. Jarrell, you're gonna go ahead and go first. Christian, you'll go second, and then I will follow up with third. Jarrell.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 3:13

you message Christian

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 3:14

Oh, he called me. Don't even worry about it. You can trust me.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 3:16

Awesome. Love it. I hope he gave you a couple because finishing second,

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 3:20

Yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 3:21

might need to go into the pocket for another one. My winner is going to be crystal palace. I get their first one of the season. Very exciting. There's only a few teams left who haven't won. Being the wolves and it switch off the top of my head. I know I'm missing one more. But yeah, crystal palace, huge, especially against Tottenham. get more into Tom him later, but it's good for crystal palace to put three points on the board and try and move up out of that relegation spot.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 3:47

Yeah, Crystal Palace, they started John Philip Mateta. Over forgot our boy's name. Oh my god. I'm going straight to hell, Jerome.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 3:55

No, you got it.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 3:57

So it started him over a usual striker this week, and he gets the goal, puts him over 1 0. But big win for Crystal Palace, as you said. Something we were touching on last week. Christian, actually, he gave me a call, and he actually, he said his winner this week was Barcelona, because they played a good game. Christian didn't call me Christian, didn't give me any of them. Christian's fucking screaming into the mic if he's listening to it. But Offside Traps was Christian's winner this week. So my winner for this week I was actually gonna go ahead and you actually sniped my Crystal Palace foot pick. But in the same vein, I'm gonna go ahead and go Wolves. Wolves was down two Gans Brighton, who's been on top half of the table. throughout the majority of the season. They were able to fight go back and get two labels. One from game artists to get a result, get a point and double their point total on the season, going from a one to a strong two. So we'll wait and see how, if both teams can get a stress, solid running form going forward. How about you draw what you got for a loser?

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 4:51

I forgot who did not have a win

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 4:55

Yeah. Yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 4:57

it's there. I'm looking at it. I see it. gonna go with the Busy Bees. Brentford. Oh, we're on losers, aren't we? No, Brentford's not my loser. They won. Sorry.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 5:10

That was girls. I thought it was, that was Christian's actual.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 5:12

I was like Brentford was one of my winners, but no My loser I don't really have one games fell the way they should have gone. Oh boy i'm stumped and I don't I didn't want to say man united because we're going to talk about it But it's gonna be man united controversial VAR in the stoppage time towards the end of the game. I was watching that one really tough break. It led to 10 hags firing. He might've still got fired if it was a draw, but. It's really tough when West Ham was a leaky team. It's get right game. It's keep your momentum going. And it just, it wasn't working. men United was, they're just all over the place and hopefully a new manager will come in and write the ship. But I think the problems are deeper than a 10 hack. So many night is my loser this week.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 6:01

Yeah. Not a bad shout. All things said, I almost fucked her and I put them as a winner. Considering Hey, you get to move on. We spoke about that FA cup when probably extending like the rebuild they're trying to do awkward part of the season, but yeah, we'll touch a little bit more in regards to like. Rumors with that job and whatnot. My loser of the week, I was gonna go, I was gonna go Manchester United actually, just cause of our if so sound rough go of things. They played a really fun game this weekend against Bradford went up to, Oh, and the first half gave up two goals right before the half over to your own Lisa, Lisa gets his brace first half, second half. They pick up a red. lose the lead. We're down three to get a goal, a man down three, three from Liam Delip. And they, it's plus, and they just gave up another goal. So I really appreciate after the game McKenna, their coach, his comments towards the team talking about how it was a good fight. It's tough when you're a man down, they've been leaky throughout the majority of the season. It's a tough, as we talked about stuff when you're writing the ascendancy to acclimate to that higher competition, but tough loss this week. Fun game. Fun game. But braces from Omo and YOA leads to more drop points. Rip. So as they're still looking for their first wins of season, I think they're sitting on four points, right? Four, four wins, five losses, something like that. So

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 7:12

Yes. If switch four points,

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 7:14

yeah, so tough week. Tough week. I'm sure Christian would probably say something in regards to Spurs being shit or something like that. So we'll say that's his loser for the week.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 7:22

Sounds about

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 7:22

Yeah. So Christian, we miss you.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 7:25

So yeah, jumping into it. I. do want to talk about Tottenham a little bit. It's, I will give, and I will make excuses for Man United because it just hasn't been flowing for them all season, but Tottenham's just weird. They're like on, and then they're off and yeah, Crystal Palace is my winner. And they really took advantage to get that score. Like it's a game that you expect Tottenham to win. You expect

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 7:50

Yeah,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 7:50

like building momentum, I believe. And I was looking at it earlier. yeah, they've won. They've lost two of the last three. They dropped to Brighton. They beat who they play last week. And then they lose to crystal palace. Another team that you're supposed to beat and they lose to

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 8:08

last week they won and the week before that they beat West Ham last week for one and they blew against Brighton before the international break. If I remember right, they were up like 2 0 and they gave up 3 0 in the second half.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 8:21

Yeah, so it's been so I mean they're beating teams under them normally then they struggle against teams above them Brighton is in a weird spot. Maybe Brighton is like really good this year. Just taking off just being a little bit more unbiased and just Appreciating more of what this Brighton squad is doing But like you take care of you take care of West Ham you take care of men United and then Crystal Palace comes up and you're just like Oh no, we're just going to lose one zero. I didn't get to watch the game, but it's a wonky one give up. The tandem is iffy and maybe I'll start making excuses for them coming up, but many 90 was just Oh, they're struggling. You could see them struggling. Like all season taught him is I could see, I see little glimmers of greatness and then you just like drop points and silly games.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 9:07

Yeah, and Spurs we've talked about, they've been streaky. And as you've alluded to, they've been very stop go and just their run of form. I think even the Arsenal game at no point did I feel like they were, we were worried about them, but that's a game. We expect to win. They controlled throughout the duration of it, but it's just it just feels like something's not clicking with them day to day. We had UCL aspirations potentially for them, Europe places for them, and they're sitting mid table around tennis to draw. I don't know if you have the standings up currently, but it's definitely a team where we thought they'd be more around the place where Chelsea currently is in that range of the table. And meanwhile, They're looking more like a full on more like where we typically would see Crystal Palace year to year right now. They do need a run of games post Akoglu. It's his second year at the helm coming into the season. He was alluding to how he always wins trophies, and I think that talks changed a little bit. I think after the ten hag, he would reference how well he won a trophy, and that doesn't mean much in this league end of the day. But yeah, Spurs, if you take the name off of it, cause Spurs, you expect them to struggle to win trophies at least. But there's so much talent on that team and I just don't know why week to week they're having struggle, struggling getting on. But yeah, something to monitor throughout the year, Manchester United at those cracks were there and you just hope that something would click at some point under 10 hag, but that job's just tough all around. Spurs is just we're waiting for them to pedal to the metal and get around going almost

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 10:29

yeah, and it's not doom and gloom for the Spurs.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 10:32

Yeah,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 10:32

points fifth place, which is Chelsea currently 17 points. So it's not like the season is not doomed. Like you can make up those points. They have the talent to do it. It's just putting it together and getting on the same page. I can't speak the same for man United. I think with the manager change and everything going on, I think that team is going to continue to struggle. They might hit 10 towards the end of the season as the table starts to balance itself out. But it's not it's not like it's not over for Tottenham. They are eighth. Brentford sits tied with them in points at nine. So they're doing all right. It's just some of the games that they're dropping. It's really though, that's the game you choosing to lose.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 11:09

a it's a league of momentum as we talked about over the last couple of years and it's just yeah, when you get a team of Crystal Palace, even if you're on the road, no disrespect to Crystal Palace is these are the three points we need to win because, following week, you might see a Chelsea. I'm not sure. Matchday 10. Who are they playing currently? Actually, give me one second. They're playing Villa next week. So even though they're at home, you're playing against a team that's top four in the league right now. So you want those three points as a buffer. So if you get a draw, it's not the end of the world. But now you're looking down the barrel of just over two weeks. Draw typically wouldn't be the worst result against a team like Villa. But you also don't want to have the averaging half a point over two weeks or one point over the last or what? Two points over the last. Four points over the last four weeks, essentially. So that, that doesn't get you where you're trying to be currently on through this iteration of the team. Yeah, scary stuff for them over there. Any other games this week? Culture. I I know we were busy a lot of it. I try to catch up as much as I can do some homework over the days, but

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 12:03

Yeah, we could talk about Liverpool, Arsenal and just a bit, but I do want to talk about these teams that are taking advantage of these, I guess you could say legacy, these powerhouse teams that have been falling. Brighton, Nottingham Forest definitely filling in the void, even Brentford cracking the top 10. Moving up on teams like man United, a Newcastle Tottenham, all these teams are like normally when you'll make a power rankings, like they do hover towards the top because they got the money. They got the star power. They have this. They have that and they're faltering and these smaller clubs are definitely like making a push and making a case to have some staying power and Mhm. are the moments you take advantage, especially like Burfurs is not a big, it's not a big club. Yeah, it's in London But like this team was promoted maybe five years ago Not even that long ago and like you need seasons like this to where you have that staying power and you can bring in that money and bring in that revenue and And stay a strong team. So shout out to those teams for definitely filling those voids and being competitive.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 13:04

yeah, like nodding me on forest, I think, obviously they were the first game, but after they won on Friday, they were fifth on the table awaiting results to see what happens. Nine and four has 16 points so far through nine games this season, That's unheard of for Nottingham. Brentford, as you've alluded to, usually it's just yeah, you don't want to go to their stadium and they can get upset week to week, but you're seeing these teams take the opportunity and build on, Hey, maybe under the season. You're not where you want to be. But Nottingham forest was a team we were talking about being relegated. They now they're 12 points out of relegation. It's a long season. There's still, we're about what about a quarter of the way through, but teams are safe. We're talking about still like Manchester United. They're closer to where they're at that towards relegation than they are to like Arsenal, Aston Villa. They're about the same. Yeah, shout out to those teams. Shout out to them being able to. Take advantage of their fixtures and get points where they're not expected to and get the points they're supposed to get, where they're supposed to Brunford went down too early, they could have folded on that game or lost their composure. They stuck with it. We're able to get a result against a devastated Ipswich team. Yeah good shout for sure. We

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 14:08

again for us literally like fuck the football fellows. We were going to show them. So

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 14:12

don't call it freaky forest for no reason. The tricky trees.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 14:14

Tricky trees. So that's great. And at the bottom of the table, and we're going to continue to monitor and we can just be overreacting. Maybe it all resets and everything falls where it should, but it's good football right now. It's still no surprise at the bottom of switch. Maybe the wolves are a surprise But I always had them like even at most the 1617 team and the Southampton The bottom is starting to settle like what we're expecting. I thought we'd get more out of switch Leicester City decided to take the reins on that one. But yeah, bottom of table is Looking familiar, and we'll see Everton's on a tear right now. They've picked up points in the last five matches. So they've definitely come up out of that 20th spot and stock is low on many nights. Stock is high on Everton. I would think what were your thoughts

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 14:59

We'll see. Wolves for me, it's. position on the table. No, but if you told me we're closing out October, they'd have two points through two months of the season. I'd be like, Oh, there's no fucking way. Just because wolves have been like mainstay in the league for over the last few seasons. But Manchester United, hopefully they're galvanized by their coaching switch. A lot of support for Eric 10, how it gets a tough job. I think the timing may be a little bit weird. After, especially I think, I called it 10 hog watch, but especially that West Ham result where the penalty is given and I thought it was a terrible fucking call like if it happened to Arsenal just because it wasn't called on the pitch

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 15:37

on

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 15:37

and

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 15:37

Yeah.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 15:38

and then there's a VAR check that comes out and it's just like this scrutiny that doesn't have to exist. I think it's a fantastic win for West Ham with the struggles they've had throughout the season, but. I think firing him after that game. You're going to do it. It looks like, Manchester United is in 14th. I get it. We talk a lot. It's just they're not like a counter attack team. They get played through the middle a lot. The deployment of Casimir, Casimir will score a brace today. The deployment of certain players, despite their injuries, just appeared a little wonky. Manchester United. There's no real identity on the pitch. I don't know who's available. They've rumored with Ruben Amorim, who is the coach of sporting port Portugal. But I think it would cost 10 million for the 10 million euros for them to activate his release clause. And then apparently there's like a 30 day window. So it's just, complicated when, after winning that FA trophy. Yeah, we won a trophy. How are you going to let them go? But you have the summer there's candidates available to try to get someone versus now you're mid season, trying to reestablish a brand of football. When nine games in, you have 11 points. So you, your foundation's as shaky as it's ever been. You're going to bring someone in. Maybe you let Ruud van Nistelrooy take a punt at it. If you play well, cool. You get a surprise going if you want to stick with route end of the season. No, but if not, it gives you time end of the season to refresh your coaching search. Or if you want to perform, hey, it's an interim coach. It's a man, Manchester United legend end of the day. Hey, we knew what this season was. We rebuild and just stay above and we'll be better next season with some investment. But it's the timing for me. That's just like I have no expectations on Manchester United. They could be bad. They could be good, but. Regardless of what, just figuring this out on the fly, it's going to be wildly different, difficult, especially next month, December is just fixtures of the Lord, like every three days. So we'll see what that looks like.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 17:27

the penalty doesn't happen and the game ends in a draw, it's 10 eggs, still the manager of men United.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 17:33

Why not at this point for me? They're, they're sharing those results. Haven't been great. What was the game? Sorry. Let me go through their fixtures real quick. I think the one for me that probably could have done it is just maybe that 3 0 against Tylenum early in the season. Where they just didn't look, they just haven't looked great week to week. But for me, it would have been after that fake up. Regardless of them getting the trophy. I think it was just time for a reset

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 17:59

Send them out with the bang. I think that would have been the best thing. Yeah. You didn't like

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 18:04

if you're going to fire him when he, if he doesn't win I think it's just like a sign that, Hey, this could go bad over half a season, it's a punt.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 18:12

Yeah. It's, it is odd that not odd. Cause it happens in sports all the time. Like you win the trophy and that's that's the bandaid that fixes everything. Cause it's Oh, the process is working. We won the FA cup kind of thing, but they still sat. Outside the top five on the table last season like it still didn't look good and They didn't do anything like really help ten hack or man United's cause in general and then now you follow it 14 Then I think it's the extension It's the extension if it was just as contract that just had to run out and he was just on the last year of his contract This was this would be a normal conversation. This is fine But he wins the FA Cup and they're just like, you know what we got something here You And

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 18:56

but I think that's the thing. I think, I feel like you knew as a Manchester United supporter that like, maybe you have similar finishes, but you didn't really feel that. They're playing up to par as like a top level team. From when they've regressed since they last came in second, a few years back. So I'm just what's the path. And you can put the Manchester where you could put shiny new signings on it. There were, I think there were, there's been good investment, but it's just what's the plan you bring in sound show, you bring in Anthony, who looks like he's on the way out. Now you bring in all these guys and it's just no one's really, who's been better going to Manchester United over like the last half decade.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 19:31

Bring back Rinaldo

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 19:33

Even the Renault it just seems like they're going from one drama to the next. They were taking Thomas Tuchel was available. They were taking interviews with him what, eight, within the last year. And they're sitting down, talks to having him just bring in Tuchel at the point. Do what you have to do. And the. Them not being able to when he's willing to take the, take a meeting with you, that tells me it's just he was open to it. You just had to make certain guarantees and they weren't making those guarantees. Rather it's like style of play, who you had to sell whatever it was. We'll see what Manchester United looks like. I feel not as dire, but Chelsea was in a similar vein, probably not even 18 months ago. And now they're looking like a team who's like set for the future. It could be fun. Speaking of, did you see that Chelsea Newcastle game by any chance? Did you see the highlights? Colt

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 20:16

that one. I saw a goal. I saw Nicholas Jackson's goal, but I didn't watch the game.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 20:23

Palmer So you saw Colt Palmer with the flick up field to Neto? Is that it? Yeah. I'm just like, what is the vision and what is the trust over there? That was beautiful to see. And Nicholas Jackson clean, just put his foot straight through it, like no second thought about it, so that was good. Colt Palmer also had a goal. In the game as he continues to like, let it rip. But Chelsea once again, looking really good last week, tough result against Liverpool, but probably like something that we considered like a victory for them with where they're at. And they just continue to keep getting results, keep getting wins. That was an exciting game to watch to catch recaps of and try to drink up as much as you can after the fact as well.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 20:59

for sure. Liverpool Arsenal despite Arsenal's injuries

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 21:04

Ah! Yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 21:06

up for a majority of the game get the draw

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 21:10

They bossed him the first half too. I, for me the first half it was like it was all arsenal. I know they gave up the goal, whatnot, but it's just like they just dominated play. Sorry I just, it was just, yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 21:21

just yeah, we, they got two goals and they're like on their way. Mo Salah had a great run.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 21:28

Fantastic.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 21:28

Just

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 21:29

goal.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 21:29

the middle of the field and just, there's just nobody there. It's just him and the keeper to, to draw, to tie the game. I'm not upset with taking a point just because of the injuries. I was very happy to be ahead,

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 21:43

Yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 21:44

going into it. And it was just like, Oh, just nine more minutes. Arsenal can do it. They can win this game. And, like I said, Mo Salah with his goal, I'm content with the one point. It still keeps you in striking position and I'm not going to make excuses for Arsenal, but the points of man city, you split the points of Liverpool. It's. They're still there. Arsenal is still there. They just need to get healthy, hopefully there's no on field shenanigans going forward in the next to the end of the season.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 22:17

I think, I'm fine with the point. Realistically Hey, there are five points back out of first now behind city. Who's been a role, but city could see a wobble with the pieces they're missing as well. I think my thing is just even when the lead and injury to Gabriel, he appears to be okay. Urine timber came off. So obviously still know what a guard Marino came in. He got his first goal with liver with Arsenal. In the late in the first half, I think my biggest thing is just like we're seeing consistently and it's a bigger fixture, but almost like it feels like they're coming back into a shell and playing a little bit more pragmatic, at times when I think they're good enough that they can continue to, because they were playing through Liverpool's midfield without. Much difficulties. A lot of the first half. And I know Martinelli got tired and soccer with a wonderful goal. His 50th goal with Arsenal as well. He was cooking Robertson the whole first half as well. They had them on their back heel. And, I think it was fortunate that was to one at that point for Liverpool. And I think if anything, it might just show that. Maybe not having someone on the fringes on the wings who can just sniff out a goal and score a goal is what Arsenal is missing right now. But I think they have to also trust in themselves a little bit more than they do. Where it's just like you're dominating a game in the first half, you come out second half, yes, there's injuries, but it's just there's still so much talent there that it's just get the third goal at home. or play to get the third goal. And I think sometimes I'm a little bit at odds at that because you leave yourself open to something like this. The outcome give you or came in and tough job to come in as well. It looks like there is there. He was a little out of sync with his back line with Ben White also playing out of position to give up that solid goal. But it's just like you play someone like Mo Salah on a week to week. You might give up that goal. So I don't know. I and coming into it. Ideally, you want the three as a team like Liverpool. You're okay with the one. But we're going to start need to turning these into threes and we're going to start getting guys back. And it's going to probably be Rosie in a couple of months, but five points back right now in October, you want to start closing the gap. I think Liverpool man city still have to play as well. We've had some bad luck on fixtures, but it doesn't get easier. I think bossed that three. Oh we're going to have. Newcastle, Inter Milan, and Chelsea are our next three fixtures, and I believe those are all road games, so I'm just it doesn't get easier Moral victory, but hopefully we can get these guys back.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 24:41

man, City still has to play. Liverpool, like you said, and they still have to play Villa. still have to play Chelsea. Could even, yeah, there are games that man said he can slip up on Liverpool. Isn't invincible either. They dropped a. Nottingham Forest. They pick up their, this was their first draw all season. So they had a loss heading in and then they get another draw. So Liverpool is definitely like a scarier team in my opinion. And Arsenal played them close and unfortunately they, they couldn't, they had to split the points.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 25:14

Yeah, and for Liverpool,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 25:15

I

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 25:15

I think it's also you take it as a win till you get the goal late, but it's also something I talked about was just, yeah, you've been playing like a lot of like lower table teams, best start in Liverpool history for Arnslott. 10 out of 11. I think my only concern for Liverpool is they were getting played through the middle of their midfield until late, but end of the day, hey, point back of Man City and Man City is just starting off on a burner as well. Started the season. So I don't even think Arsenal is playing worse than last year. I think everyone else around them is just playing a little bit better.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 25:44

It

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 25:44

Yeah, we'll see how it goes.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 25:46

doesn't matter anybody can get got

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 25:49

Everybody can get got, baby. Everybody can get got. Such as Aston Villa. Aston Villa got tripped up after a couple, couple big wins over the last couple weeks,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 25:57

the

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 25:58

Our pick'ems were fucked by these last minute goals all week. Everton flipped a result. Wolves flipped a result. Yeah,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 26:05

oh, no, it's the lead safe Where were you for el clasico will

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 26:11

I was at Kelton Harp, downtown Orlando.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 26:15

were I

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 26:15

Yeah, he was right next to me. Jarrell saw me going through the, going through everything pretty much for the majority of it.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 26:21

watched him sprint down the hallway on the third goal on the fucking

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 26:24

You,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 26:25

header right into the corner. I was like, oh god, that's beautiful

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 26:28

was the second one. Yeah. And then ran down the hallway when he missed the easy one to chip in. So

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 26:33

for the hat for

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 26:33

for first, for someone who went in as a relative neutral, what are your thoughts on the game?

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 26:38

It was fun. I enjoyed it. Yeah, I like watching Barcelona play. I like as much as I don't watch La Liga. I, Christian's going to hate me. like the way Barcelona plays.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 26:50

They read how they play as well to be fair. So yeah. Yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 26:55

Yeah. So sorry, Real Madrid. The offsides trap is too strong for Mbappé and those memes have, are crazy.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 27:04

I was really hoping to talk to Christian about it this week because I told him it was like the toughest thing was like now you have Mbappe going into a team with who just won Champions League. So if it doesn't hit the ground running, What's changes you and Tony Cross as well. I think you saw a little bit of it. The Athletic did great coverage on Barca and Real Madrid and how they're trying to play this season starting with the Dortmund game where it's just like Madrid's having a harder time playing through midfield with teams man marking them and Tony Cross was just like a cheat code. Their words to assist with that a lot. But also having Bellingham out on the wing, super strange choice as well as they're still trying to figure out how to get everyone going. Some people would say hey, Barcelona got lucky because of all the side traps and Mbappe and Vinny did have some shots that you expect them to put away. But at the same time, I think like they put it during the broadcast where Barcelona has Had 73 more after the game

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 27:57

Second is Brighton

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 27:59

35. So I'm just that's coached and it's a dangerous way to play, but it definitely worked out Lewandowski turned the game on his head with two goals. And I think I was really nervous that Madrid would have show the Hey, we're going to figure this out. We're going to do it. And just They really just fucked, were shambolic and fell apart. Not me talking shit, Christian, if you're listening to this, but it's just Lewandowski missed a tap in, they had some, a couple other looks. Mbappe, he had two, a couple looks, like second half when they were down two goals as well, where it was like a one on one with the keeper, he just couldn't find the back of his net, but it's just It wasn't scary. And for those goals too, it felt like Barcelona probably could have scored a couple more as well. Barca wins it this week. When's this classical matchup? Christian was seeing Tay. So I'm glad he was able to do that. But yeah, it should be fun stuff. I'm heading into the rest of the league of season. Barcelona six point lead in La Liga over Madrid, 10 over Atletico currently. So we'll see if they figure it out

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 28:53

And then shortly after that, was it the next day or Mon it was

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 28:56

Monday.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 28:57

d'Or?

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 28:57

Yeah. Yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 29:00

rumors that Vinny was going to win the award turned out to not be true.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 29:05

the point he yelled it at Gavi during his thing. I'm gonna win, I'm gonna win that shit on Monday,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 29:10

said, fuck this W. I'm going to get mine on Monday. he doesn't want it. It goes to Roger of man city. I'm not mad about that. I'm okay. I don't, a lot of people are just like I give it to a man city player. I'm just like, but. Isn't Roger a pretty down to earth guy like he like and he puts in the work and he's like integral to man city and is what is he

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 29:35

We discussed it over,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 29:37

midfielder.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 29:38

CDM, so he plays defensive midfield, so It's weird, right? Cause it's just I think we talked about it over the summer and we were like, Vinicius is a favorite Rodri is probably It was like between the two was like the rumor thing. And at the end of the day, it's a journalist vote. So it's like a hundred journalists, they vote over the world and there could be any type of reason and popularity contest whatever the fuck you want to call it. Cool. Typically you see attackers when it Vinicius fantastic season. Rodri was at 74 games unbeaten when he plays for man city. And then depending on your lens, maybe it's the euros competition, even though it's just you can point at this player, You can point at whoever, but at the end of the day, I'm just Lewandowski not winning in 2020 was probably like a travesty 2018 version of Van Dyke could have won it. And there's probably like a thousand other instances with this. This was for me felt like a two man. The result is surprising just because it was assumed Vinny, but we also talked about where it's like Vinny favorite. Cause he's an attacker man cities. Roger, he's probably there as well. Cause man city is super strong. They won trophies. He won, they won euros or whatnot. My biggest lens is just and It's not me, Barcelona bias, whatever, but I'm just it's. For me, it's Ballon d'Or, fuck it. But since it's something that, your fellow footballers also attend and are being recognized for, it's for me, whack that you were planning to go because players have not gone to the Ballon d'Or before. There's a thousand reasons. You're mid season. There's things going on. Schedules don't line up. Emma Hayes talks about how it's not fair to women's players. Shout out to her. She won women's coach, Anshul Ali, won men's coach of the Ballon d'Or for women. Aitana Bonmati of Barcelona. Men's Club, Real Madrid, Women's Club of the Year, Barcelona Femeni. So there's a bunch of players being recognized for their achievement. It's typically just, that all players recognize, regardless of it's like NBA in the States voting, where it's just Hey, there's a narrative drawn to it, whatever. You were gonna show up, you found out you didn't, and now it's just like almost a boycotting of it. Fuck the Ballon d'Or, let's say, but it's just for me, it's just disrespectful to the players that, your colleagues, in a sense, you know, who are also working all year to do it it felt to me, Real Madrid saying they're bigger than it, and I think bigger than everything else, and it's just fuck that. I think that's wildly disrespectful.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 31:48

I'm

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 31:48

Because

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 31:48

that Christian can't defend his team.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 31:51

I'm sure I'll hear about it, but it's not even like about it's about Madrid obviously because they're the ones doing it for me It's just like it's fucking disrespectful and like I get you don't like the result fucking Ronaldo and Messi They fucking for years were flipping Ballon d'Or and they would show up or there'd be sometimes maybe they don't show up But teammates did or whatnot, but to do the whole thing on the basis that one player is not winning It's pretty It's almost like an entitlement thing. And it's also feels like just Madrid trying to angle Oh yeah, we're like these underdogs or something where Oh, everyone's against Madrid where I'm just you're like the most followed fucking team in the world. And you guys have won the most UCLs ever. Like it's not the it's not the end of the war for something that people say it's just oh It's just like a popularity fucking contest. Anyway, so those are my two cents on it I think it's just rude to the other but yeah

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 32:37

I do disagree with the just canceling attendance and just not showing up in support.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 32:43

I'm also just so midfielders can't win or a seat like I can't see a center back win it because like They don't play like the more recognizable like a more recognizable style of play because it's just Yeah, I don't know those players should be recognized and whatnot. So I don't know for me I probably would have I probably would have leaned Vinny just off just like that but at the same time is Internationally, I think Brazil went won three out of their ten games last season like last year and they crashed out of their South American Cup Spain won 14 for 14. They won every fucking game they played. So I'm just it. But at the end of the day, you can move the goalposts to whatever narrative you want to fit. I don't know. I'm sorry about that. That, I'm off my thing. Christian, I love you.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 33:23

no, you're fine. I'm sure he can forgive you. i'm not upset with the win read too much into I don't pay attention to it. I don't know roger's stats I don't know and again, it's a vote. It's like college football ap poll You just like I like this team And the record is good. So here's my vote for it kind of thing. So I don't look into it too much, but,

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 33:43

Harry Kane had 54

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 33:44

when the strike, when a non striker wins the

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 33:46

Yeah, I'm just like Harry Kane had 54 goal involvements last season and he wasn't like top five. Like he doubled like Vinny's for the year. Not saying that like he's more deserving or anything, but I'm just like, it's just like weird lines that people draw when discussing these things. And I'm just just show up to the bitch. So

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 34:03

just have a good time,

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 34:04

yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 34:04

good

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 34:04

Yeah.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 34:06

right. Anything else you want to go over? Discuss before we get into our preview for next week.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 34:12

No, I think I'm ready for the preview. I'm ready for the preview.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 34:15

preview.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 34:15

ready for my team origin next year too. But Next week, but

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 34:19

next week, next year.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 34:20

I see

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 34:21

you got a long break. Arsenal going on the road, taking on Newcastle. We're going into match week 10. So we're going to have Newcastle versus Arsenal. Bournemouth is going to try and snipe some points off a man city. If you would ask me three weeks ago, I said, no, not possible, but it's looking more and more likely.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 34:39

anyone can get got

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 34:40

can do it. Anybody can get got. Tractor boys are going to play the Foxes. takes on Brighton. The Freaky Forest not in Forest take on West Ham. Villa takes on that's incorrect, the Saints Southampton. Southampton takes on Everton. The Wolves play Crystal Palace. Spurs take on Villa, there it is, there's the Villa game. Men United versus Chelsea and Fulham versus the Bees.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 35:05

the busy bees,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 35:06

you're excited for?

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 35:08

Outside of the arsenal one. I'm excited. Obviously they're trying to get their get back for last December against Newcastle when they dropped in that game. I was excited. I want to see a forest ham versus West ham. See if West ham can finally build a little bit momentum. And I'm really excited actually for wolves and crystal palace, both teams able to get. Positive results. Wolves got that tougher and draw surprise draw. West Ham able to get three points. I'm sorry, Crystal Palace able to get their first three points. See if one of those teams can build out of the relegation and just see if they can ride that momentum towards the international break. How about you?

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 35:39

Yeah, the Liverpool Brighton game will be fun. I talked about it a little bit. One of those teams that can challenge Liverpool define Brighton and see what they're really about this season. test for them. They took, they, they drew arsenal on arsenal red card. They beat man United at a time when we had held men United in high regard. So it'd be a good one for

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 36:05

I could never do such a thing.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 36:07

What hold men United in high regard.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 36:10

this year.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 36:10

So more of a game for Brighton than it is Liverpool and Liverpool's fans are looking at it as taking care of business and Brighton fans, they got something to prove. So that should be a good one. I'll be a fun one. City and Bournemouth. yeah. Bournemouth getting all three points against Arsenal drawing last week. Can they keep it going against Man City? Maybe they got the

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 36:34

I fucking hope so. I fucking hope so, right?

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 36:37

just all the games,

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 36:40

Yeah

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 36:41

Bournemouth, the giant killers.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 36:42

It's what we do the legend killer RKO's everywhere Spurs village should also be fun Spurs. It's just like hey, which Spurs team are we gonna see this week, right?

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 36:51

That's why it won't be fun for me. Cause I'm just like, I don't, I have to guess I have to pick that game. And it's just, I don't want to sit there for 90 minutes and then when it ends, just be like, what the fuck I'm

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 37:01

Remove the ego remove the I try to watch him I forget what my pickums are by this time games are all around I'm just like I have vague feelings and then When I go to do the points and everything I was like damn I really picked that's fucking insane Yeah, i'm I think my last four picks for last match of the week have gone. I've been incorrect, which is fucking wild but spurs village should be fun. John duran. Let's see if he plays some more. Once again, ollie walkins He's playing John Duran. I think he scored his UCL game. He got subbed off, and he had a fucking meltdown on the sideline. I fucking love it, though. He was just like, How the fuck are you gonna sub me off? After I just scored a goal, kicking the player chair in front of him. I wanna know what was going through that guy's head. As John Duran is just kicking me in the back of my shit, but that should be fun. I'm probably leaning Villa spoiler, right now, but. Sprays are at home. So who knows

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 37:44

and Bees is a 9 10 matchup. Did you think we'd be saying that? It's a top 10 matchup right there.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 37:51

the fact that Fulham drop points over the last couple of weeks, haven't they? And that they're in a position to move back into top eight. Not something I had. I think I had Brentford somewhere in the 10 to 13 range, but yeah, one of these teams could ride a win. You get a result and you're looking around like eight. If things go right with 10 games into the season. So that would definitely be a fun game. They're going to be at Craven Scottish as well. So bees with the road game and Brian. Oh, that. So I realized after winters, I think us being in between was like, Oh shit, we didn't write this down prior because we're professionals. Brian was going to be my original winner because he's just scoring fucking goals, like a madman for Brentford.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 38:29

Make

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 38:30

It's another brace. He had what the four goals within the first five minutes earlier in the season. You own Wisa. He also had some great goals to initially bring the bag, but Brian and Bayumo, I'm doing amazing stuff for Thomas Frank's team over there. So he was my original winner. If you're still with us.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 38:44

Toney?

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 38:47

Not them apparently they took the cash. So yeah. Yeah, so yeah should be fun But

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 38:53

Can't wait. Don't we have a Friday night game? Friday afternoon game now?

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 38:57

Not this week. Not this week. So so Monday. Yes I think it's the bees game. So I usually try to put it on the dock in general order of That the games are in or a show up. So if there's a Monday game, it's full of bees I started looking at it because I know the schedule is gonna get really fucking weird at some point You but for the most part, there will be some Friday, Monday games throughout November Thanksgiving will probably be like a week where we have to figure out what we're doing, but December, I don't even, the games, it feels like euros cause the games are just fucking everywhere. So that those pickings are going to be fun. That coverage is going to be exciting because it's like,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 39:35

them by the day.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 39:37

day or two, we're just gonna have one person. It's welcome to your ASMR. This is William and this is half of match day three or 13, 20 or 15, wherever the fuck we're going to be by December. So fun stuff.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 39:50

minute episodes.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 39:51

Yeah. Next week we're going to be going over match day 11. Correct.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 39:56

Smash day.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 39:57

We'll have match day 10 results, match day 11 preview. And then UCL is next week.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 40:05

It's always next week to me, yeah. Cause they did the EFL this week. So I imagine

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 40:10

I think there might be champions league. So we'll maybe do a recap of that. Depending on fixtures following week, we'll do week 10 and then we'll do our international break thing eventually.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 40:18

All

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 40:19

I need you to get that voice a break.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 40:20

they go on international

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 40:22

Goddamn right. Jarrell. Goddamn right. Yeah. I need you to rest that voice,

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 40:25

Yeah. Yeah, I need it All right. We've been football fellows. This has been episode 18 Get your pickums.

will_7_10-30-2024_180431: 40:32

get your goddamn pickums in.

jerrell_22_10-30-2024_180430: 40:34

I want you to beat me. I keep finishing Me down All right guys until next week